>> THE SUPPLY OF VACCINE IN RHODE ISLAND IS MEETING THE DEMAND.

WE WILL HAVE THOUGHTS ON WHY.

IS THIS THE YEAR CHANGES TO THE POLICEMAN'S BILL OF RIGHTS WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY?

>> A LIVELY EXPERIMENT IS UNDERWRITTEN BY -- >> A LIVELY EXPERIMENT HAS PROVIDED INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS TO RHODE ISLAND.

I AM GROUND TO -- I AM PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.

>> JOINING US, NICK GORHAM, BILL LYNCH, AND LISA PELOSI.

JIM: WELCOME.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

IF THERE WAS A TIME NOT THAT LONG AGO WHERE SIGNING UP FOR A VACCINATION APPOINTMENT WAS TRYING TO GET ROLLING STONE CONCERT TICKETS.

VERY LIMITED SUPPLY LEADING TO FRUSTRATION.

THAT SCRIPT HAS FLIPPED.

HUNDREDS OF APPOINTMENTS ARE GOING UNFILLED.

THE STATE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

LET ME TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS VACCINE HESITANCY OR LAZINESS, BUT THE STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS.

GOVERNOR MCKEE WANTED TO GET UP TO 70% FOR HERD IMMUNITY.

MR. LYNCH: I WAS GOING TO DO THIS AT THE END OF THE SHOW, BUT A LOT OF IT IS WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED.

THE GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ARE DOING A GREAT JOB TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

I GOT MY SECOND SHOT A FEW WEEKS AGO.

MY MOM GOT HER SECOND SHOT.

NO ADVERSE EFFECTS.

WE NEED TO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

IT IS NOT JUST A PERSONAL DECISION, BUT SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS PEOPLE AROUND YOU, FAMILY, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS.

THE GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, TAKING THE LEAD, TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BUCKLE DOWN AND GET DONE.

JIM: BILL, THE HORN COMING OUT OF THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT?

MR. LYNCH: IF YOU SEE ME CHANGE MY AFFILIATION TO REPUBLICAN, YOU WILL KNOW THERE WERE ADVERSE EFFECTS TO THE SHOT.

MR. GORHAM: THIS IS A STORY OF THE YOUNG AND NOT SO RESTLESS.

THE YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THE STATE FEEL THEY ARE MADE OF IRON AND THEY DO NOT FEEL AS STRONGLY AS ADULTS THAT THEY NEED THE SHOT, THAT THEY CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT IT.

IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE TO GET TO 70%.

THEY NEED TO START PUSHING IT.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET TO THAT THRESHOLD.

THAT IS MY EXPLANATION.

JIM: THERE IS A RIPPLE EFFECTS.

WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THE BUSINESSES -- GOVERNOR MCKEE HINTED IT MAY BE COMING SOONER THAN LATER, TO REALLY HIT THE CEILING.

IF THEY CANNOT GET TO 70, WHAT DO WE DO?

MS. PELOSI: EVEN WITH THE FLU VACCINE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT FEEL THE RISK IS WORTH THE REWARD.

WHEN YOU HAVE STORIES WITH MAJOR HEADLINES, THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINE CAUSING BLOOD CLOTS, PEOPLE THINK IS THIS WORTH IT?

EVERYONE IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- ESPECIALLY THIS VACCINE THAT HAS NOT BEEN FULLY FEDERALLY APPROVED.

I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WOULD HESITATE MORE.

IN RHODE ISLAND, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE 60 AND OLDER HAVE BEEN VACCINATED.

THE PEOPLE MORE VULNERABLE ARE GETTING THE VACCINE.

JIM: GOVERNOR MCKEE, ONCE YOU BECOME GOVERNOR, IT IS A LOT DIFFERENT.

HE HAS BEEN MORE CAREFUL THAN MOST.

MS. PELOSI: LOOK AT OUR SURROUNDING STATES.

THEY HAVE BEEN LOOSENING RESTRICTIONS LOOSER THAN WE HAVE IN RHODE ISLAND.

IT HAS BEEN BALANCE.

A BALANCE OF PUBLIC HEALTH VERSUS THE ECONOMY.

IT WAS WEIGHTED TOWARDS PUBLIC HEALTH.

THE MORE WE REACH HERD IMMUNITY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO OPEN UP OUR DAILY LIVES.

JIM: MAYBE YOU WON'T HAVE TO WEAR THE MASK IN THE LONG RUN.

I HEAR THE GOVERNOR SAY WE MAY HAVE THE KIDS HAVE TO WEAR MASKS GOING BACK TO SCHOOL IN THE FALL.

I WONDER WHAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE IF THEY ARE LIKE -- IT IS GOING TO REMAIN THE WAY IT HAS BEEN, WHY SHOULD I GET THE VACCINE IF THERE IS NOT A REWARD?

MR. LYNCH: FOR ANYBODY WHO THOUGHT GOVERNOR MCKEE WAS NOT READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.

HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

NOW THAT WE HAVE OTHERS JOINING HIM, WE SEE THEY MAKE A GREAT TEAM.

THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PRIORITY.

HE AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAVE MADE IT A PRIORITY.

I AGREE WITH NICK.

PROBABLY ONLY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

WE WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS ONGOING EDUCATIONAL PUSH TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE AND EXPLAIN AND REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

WE WANT TO GET BACK TO THE POINT WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR A MASK ALL THE TIME.

THINGS WILL BEGIN TO OPEN UP.

I WOULD LOVE TO GO BACK TO COURT EVERY DAY AND GET BACK INTO A NORMAL ROUTINE.

IN ORDER FOR THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN, WE NEED PEOPLE TO REALIZE WE HAVE TO GET SHOTS IN ARMS.

GOVERNOR MCKEE AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MEADOWS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB LEADING THAT.

WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS CORRECT, IT MEANS A LOT OF BUY-IN FROM COMMUNITY LEADERS, ATHLETES.

PEOPLE THAT YOUNGER PEOPLE TEND TO LOOK UP TO ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND TIKTOK.

THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GRADUALLY GROW INTO A CONSENSUS THAT MORE PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS NEED TO GET THE VACCINE AND IT IS AVAILABLE AND READILY AVAILABLE.

MR. GORHAM: THEY SHOULD GET THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINE BACK ONLINE AS SOON AS THEY CAN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THE ONE AND DONE.

WHEN THEY SHUT THAT DOWN, EVERYONE KNEW WE HAD TO GO GET TWO SHOTS.

JIM: WE WILL MARK THIS DAY IN HISTORY THAT BILL LYNCH AGREED WITH YOU.

MR. LYNCH: THAT COULD BE ANOTHER ADVERSE EFFECT OF THE SHOT I GOT.

JIM: YOU MAY BE DELIRIOUS.

IF YOU AGREE WITH JOE TO RELOAD, THAT WILL -- JOE TRILLO, THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT DAN MCKEE AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MATOS.

LAST TIME WE HAD YOU ON, HE WAS JUST GETTING SWORN IN.

HE WANTS TO REMIND EVERYBODY I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE 100 YEARS.

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS ON HOW HE IS DOING?

MS. PELOSI: BEFORE THE ELECTION LAST YEAR, MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO PAUSE TO SAY WHO IS OUR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

HE HAD THE LOWEST PROFILE.

ONCE THE ELECTIONS HAPPENED, THERE WAS MORE OF A SPOTLIGHT PUT ON LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MCKEE AT THE TIME.

GOVERNOR RAIMONDO WAS SO OUT OF VIEW FOR A NUMBER OF WEEKS.

I THINK HE HAD A SYMPATHY FACTOR, PEOPLE FELT SORRY HE HAD BEEN PUSHED AWAY AND NOT BROUGHT IN AND NOW HE HAS BEEN THRUST INTO THE SPOTLIGHT.

I THINK HE HAS BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.

HE HAS HAD TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND GOVERNOR IS THE SPOTLIGHT IS ONLY ON YOU AS GOVERNOR.

THE MEDIA IS FOLLOWING YOU.

EVERY WORD YOU SAY IS MAGNIFIED.

AS FAR AS HIS CHOICE FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, HE IS WALKING THE WALK AND TALKING THE TALK.

HE SAID HE WOULD BRING HIS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR TO BE FULL PARTNER.

HE IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.

I CONGRATULATE HIM FOR DOING THAT.

JIM: NICK, WHAT IS YOUR SCORECARD ON THE GOVERNOR AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR?

MR. GORHAM: GOVERNOR MCKEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE HIM MORE THAN GINA RAIMONDO.

HE SEEMS MORE FORTHRIGHT.

THERE IS A LOT TO LIKE ABOUT GOVERNOR MCKEE IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN.

A LOT OF HIS POSITIONS ARE THE MILLER TO REPUBLICAN -- ARE SIMILAR TO REPUBLICAN POSITIONS.

BILL MADE -- BILL SAID HE MADE A BRILLIANT MOVE TO MAKE MATOS HIS RUNNING MATE.

SHE IS A GOOD PICK BECAUSE SHE COVERS THAT KIND OF PROGRESSIVE WING THAT IS AMBITIOUS IN RHODE ISLAND.

SHE GREW UP IN POLITICS.

IT WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE BY GOVERNOR MCKEE.

WHAT DOES SETH AND THE OTHERS DO WHO WERE READY TO RUN?

OUR SECRETARY OF STATE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?

IT IS A DIFFICULT QUANDARY THEY ARE IN.

I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

JIM: WHAT DO YOU DO?

WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU ARE THE CHAIRMAN IN TERMS OF JUGGLING ACT?

MR. LYNCH: I LOVE PRIMARIES.

IT GETS OUR CANDIDATES OUT, GETS THEM READY FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION.

IT ALSO CAN BE DIVISIVE.

I HAVE SAID BEFORE WE HAVE ELECTED REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF WHAT TOOK PLACE DURING A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

I HAVE KNOWN DAN MCKEE AND HE HAS BEEN UNDERESTIMATED FOR A LONG TIME.

PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERESTIMATE GOVERNOR MCKEE AT THEIR OWN PERIL.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING IS HE IS READY AND HE IS A CALMING, COMFORTING SORT OF ELECTED OFFICIAL AND CANDIDATE.

IN THIS ENVIRONMENT, WITH THE PANDEMIC WE ARE DEALING WITH, PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THAT TO HEART AND HAVE BEGUN TO APPRECIATE WHAT GOVERNOR MCKEE BRINGS TO THE TABLE IN THAT FASHION.

SAME THING WITH REGARD TO LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH SABINA ON SEVERAL ISSUES.

SHE, PEOPLE MAKE A BIG MISTAKE IF THEY THINK SHE WAS SELECTED SIMPLY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN OF COLOR.

SHE IS EXTREMELY TALENTED, BOTH PROGRESSIVE AND AGGRESSIVE.

SHE IS SMART, DETERMINED.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE A GREAT TEAM.

THEY HAVE SHOWN THAT IN A SHORT TIME.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE A GREAT TEAM GOING FORWARD.

POLITICALLY, WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT SHAKES OUT.

SO MUCH OF POLITICS IS TIMING.

THERE ARE A LOT WHO THINK GOVERNOR MCKEE AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MATOS ARRIVED AT A TIME THAT WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THEM IN TERMS OF THE PANDEMIC, THE VACCINE, BUSINESSES WILL OPEN BACK UP, STIMULUS MONEY DUE FROM WASHINGTON.

THEY HAVE TO DO THE JOB.

THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WATCH.

NOW THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GRAB IT AND RUN, TO DO A GOOD JOB ON THESE ISSUES AND GET RHODE ISLAND OPEN AND MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

POLITICALLY, I AGREE WITH NICK, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.

AS YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN IN POLITICS OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE AND YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY ANTICIPATION OR REASON TO THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT.

THAT WILL PLAY OUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

JIM: HE SAID DO NOT MISS YOUR SHOT IN TERMS OF GETTING TO THE THING.

WE WILL TALK LATER -- MR. GORHAM: I ALWAYS TELL GOVERNOR MCKEE I APPRECIATE HIM.

IF IT WERE NOT FOR HIM GUARDING DEFENSE, I NEVER WOULD HAVE SCORED 1000 POINTS.

JIM: WAS HE GOOD DOWN LOW?

MR. GORHAM: THE OLDER HE GOT, THE MORE HE LIKED TO SHOOT OUTSIDE.

JIM: AN OPEN SEAT INVITES A LOT OF COMPETITION.

I WONDER IF THIS MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR A POTENTIAL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

DOES THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC?

MS. PELOSI: THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL GIFT TO GOVERNOR MCKEE.

BY BECOMING GOVERNOR, HE WAS LOW ON THE FUNDRAISING SIDE.

HE IS GOING TO INFUSE IN DIFFERENT WAYS INTO THE ECONOMY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS GOING FORWARD.

IT IS A LONG TIME BETWEEN APRIL 2021 TO NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.

THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

HE HAS BEEN WALKING THE LINE, HASN'T DONE ANYTHING CONTROVERSIAL OR DONE HARD DECISIONS TO HAVE COMPETITION.

HOW IS HE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A PUNCH?

AS FAR AS REPUBLICANS ARE CONCERNED, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING UP SOMEONE VERY STRONG, HOPE THE DEMOCRATS PICK EACH OTHER APART AND HAVE THAT JIM: THE TIME GOES WAY TOO QUICKLY.

DEREK CHAUVIN'S CONVICTION RESONATED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW POLICING HAS BEEN ON PEOPLE'S MINDS.

GIVEN THE EVENTS OF THE LAST YEAR, THE ONE THING IN RHODE ISLAND THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT SEEMS TO BE A PERENNIAL ISSUE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS AND WHETHER IT WILL BE MODIFIED.

THEY HAVE BEAT BACK ATTEMPTS FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN MINNEAPOLIS AND ALSO HERE IN RHODE ISLAND AND WHETHER THIS IS THE YEAR WITH THE MOMENTUM OR MAYBE WE DO NOT SEE CHANGE?

MR. GORHAM: THE POLICE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS, THE GENESIS OF THAT LEGISLATION ENACTED IN 1974 AS A RESULT OF SO MANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST POLICE OFFICERS, THAT THEY COULD NO LONGER DO THEIR JOB.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CREATED A PANEL PREDOMINANTLY OF POLICE OFFICERS TO JUDGE THE CONDUCT OF POLICE OFFICERS.

IT WAS THE PEERS RESPONSIBLE FOR JUDGING WHETHER HE OR SHE HAD DONE THE JOB CORRECTLY.

HERE WE ARE FULL CIRCLE.

THIS IS THE BEST YEAR TO ATTACK IT.

ONE OTHER THING ABOUT THE EARLY 1970'S, THE RISK MANAGEMENT TRUST, THAT ENSURES THE CITIES AND TOWNS, ONE OF THE REASON THAT WAS CREATED WAS BECAUSE OF THE ASSAULT ON POLICE OFFICERS IN THE LATE 1960'S AND EARLY 1970'S.

YOU COULD NOT BUY INSURANCE.

YOU COULD NOT ENSURE -- INSURE TOWNS.

IT WAS CREATED TO ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM.

IF THEY CHANGE THE PANEL, I AM NOT SAYING TOWNS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND INSURANCE.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS THERE WAS SOME WISDOM IN CREATING THAT PANEL.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A BATTLE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE TRUE COLORS OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

IT IS NOT A PARTY ISSUE.

IT IS AN ISSUE OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT POLICE AND HOW BEST TO MANAGE THE WAY THEY DO THEIR JOB.

IF I WERE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THIS WOULD BE A TOUGH VOTE.

I BET IT COMES TO THE FLOOR THIS YEAR.

I THINK HAVE THE VOTES TO GET IT TO THE FLOOR.

MS. PELOSI: WHAT I HAVE BEEN WONDERING IS -- THERE IS SUCH A MOVEMENT NOW.

IT STARTED LAST YEAR TO HAVE POLICE REFORMS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE POLICE UNIONS COME FORWARD WITH THEIR OWN PROPOSALS INSTEAD OF SITTING BACK AND LET THE LEGISLATURE FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

WHY CAN'T THEY READ THE WRITING ON THE WALL THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED?

IF YOU CAN ONLY SUSPEND AN OFFICER FOR TWO DAYS WITHOUT PAY AND THERE IS A BILL PENDING FOR 30 DAYS, CAN'T THERE BE A LEVEL OF COMPROMISE?

WHAT CAN THEY DO TO SAY LET'S WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, THERE IS AN ISSUE AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

MR. LYNCH: THIS YEAR THERE IS A NEW MOMENTUM TO THIS ISSUE.

IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

ANASTASIA WILLIAMS HAS A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE.

THIS SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION, I THINK THERE IS MOMENTUM.

NOT JUST IN MINNESOTA BUT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING HERE IN RHODE ISLAND.

I AM OPTIMISTICALLY HOPEFUL THAT THERE WILL BE SOME NEGOTIATIONS AND COMPROMISES, WHICH IS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE, IF WE DO NOT, THERE NEED TO BE CHANGES IN HOW WE ARE POLICING, PARTICULARLY HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR MINORITY COMMUNITY, INCLUDING HERE AT HOME IN RHODE ISLAND.

I AM HOPEFUL THERE WILL BE CHANGES MADE.

WE WOULD ALL AGREE A MAJORITY OF -- WE WOULD ALL AGREE, A MAJORITY OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS WOULD AGREE, THERE ARE BAD POLICE OFFICERS.

MAYBE WE HAVE NOT DONE AS GOOD A JOB AS A COMMUNITY IN MAKING SURE THAT BAD POLICE OFFICERS ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE GOOD ONES.

PEOPLE ARE NOW RELUCTANTLY RECOGNIZING THAT, AND I HOPE THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BECAUSE OF THAT.

MS. PELOSI: WE HAVE HAD INSTANCES WHERE A POLICE OFFICER IS PUT ON PAID LEAVE, BUT IT TAKES MONTHS AND YEARS FOR IT TO BE RESOLVED.

POLICE OFFICERS ARE BEING PAID NOT TO WORK WHILE THIS PROCESS TAKES FOREVER.

I DO NOT THINK THAT HAS HELPED BUILD TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND POLICE THAT WE NEED TO SEE.

JIM: SOMETIMES THAT PROCESS GETS PUT OFF.

WHAT DOES THE POLICE OFFICER CARE IF THAT PAYCHECK IS COMING IN?

LET'S DO OUTRAGEOUS AND/OR KUDOS AND WE MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

MR. GORHAM: I HAVE ONE OF EACH.

JIM: DID YOU CLEAR THAT WITH THE PRODUCER BEFOREHAND?

LET'S NOT GET GREEDY.

MR. GORHAM: KUDOS TO PETER CAHILL, THE JUDGE PRESIDING OVER THE CHAUVINIST TRIAL -- PRESIDING OVER THE DEREK CHAUVIN TRIAL, FOR CALLING OUT POLITICIANS WHO COME AND INTERFERE AND RAISE -- WHAT MAXINE WATERS DID.

SHE FLEW IN TO MINNESOTA AND FOLLMANN TO 0--- AND FOMENTED TE OUTRAGE AND CALLED ON PEOPLE TO CONFRONT AND INSINUATING PEOPLE COULD RIOT AGAIN IF THE VERDICT WAS NOT RIGHT.

THAT WAS WHILE THE JURY WAS DELIBERATING.

JUDGE CAHILL CALLED OUT ALL POLITICIANS TO STAY OUT OF IT.

HE ALSO SAID EXPLICITLY REPRESENTATIVE WATERS HAD HANDED AN APPELLATE ISSUE TO THE DEFENDANT.

HE IS GOING TO APPEAL.

MY OUTRAGE IS THAT WHEN CONGRESS WANTED TO -- WHEN THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS THOUGHT MAXINE WATERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CENSURED.

THEY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO WRONG IF THE JUDGE IMPLORED POLITICIANS NOT TO DO WHAT SHE DID.

BOTH OF OUR CONGRESSMEN VOTED AGAINST CENSURING MAXINE WATERS.

THAT WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT.

IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE.

THEY CHOSE NOT TO.

MR. LYNCH: I JUST CHANGED MY OUTRAGE FROM WHAT WAS GOING TO BE TO NICK GORHAM AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THEY ARE CRITICIZING MAXINE WATERS, WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE SAID WHAT SHE SAID, BUT NATIONALLY, WITH SOME OF THESE REPUBLICAN ELECTED LEADERS WHO ARE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO CRITICIZE MAXINE WATERS, AND YET THEY HAVE BITTEN THEIR TONGUES AND SAID NOTHING ABOUT THESE WHITE NATIONALISTS THAT STORMED CONGRESS LOOKING TO HANG MIKE PENCE, KYL NANCY -- KILL NANCY PELOSI.

IT WAS OK, THEY WERE NOT DANGEROUS BECAUSE THEY WERE WHITE AND THEY DID NOT HAVE GUNS.

THEY WANT TO DRAW AND QUARTER MAXINE WATERS FOR ONE SENTENCE IN A BEACH THEY THINK WAS INAPPROPRIATE.

IT IS RIDICULOUS.

IT IS WHY WE SEE SUCH DISTRUST DEVELOPING AND SUCH BARRIERS IN WASHINGTON.

PEOPLE ARE FED UP.

HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THOSE TWO THINGS.

IT IS OK FOR DONALD TRUMP TO CAUSE A RIOT, BUT WE SHOULD DRUM MAXINE WATERS OUT OF CONGRESS FOR SAYING SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE ABOUT THE MINNESOTA TRIAL.

JIM: MAYBE THEY ARE BOTH WRONG.

MR. LYNCH: I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT MAXINE WATERS SAID.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FROM REPUBLICANS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS HENCHMEN?

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

JIM: CENSURED NOT DRAWN AND QUARTERED.

LISA, YOU CAN BLAME THE BOYS IF YOU FEEL YOU WERE SHORTED.

MS. PELOSI: I DON'T HAVE AN OUTRAGE, MORE OF A PET PEEVES.

VACCINE HESITANCY, PUT ME IN THE CATEGORY OF I HATE NEEDLES.

SINCE THE COVID VACCINE BECAME AVAILABLE, WATCHING THE NEWS, IT IS STORY AND STORY AFTER THE VACCINE, BUT THE VISUAL EACH STATION SHOWS OVER AND OVER ARE THE NEEDLE GOING INTO PEOPLE'S ARMS AND USUALLY IT IS THE PIERCING OF THE SKIN.

I CAN'T STAND IT.

LAST NIGHT, I SAW IT 12 TIMES.

IF THE MEDIA WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE GET THE VACCINE, I SUGGEST THEY COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT VISUAL.

MR. LYNCH: FREE POPSICLE AFTER YOUR SHOT.

JIM: THEY USE TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS AT CHANNEL SIX.

DO NOT SHOW A NEEDLE GOING IN.

THAT IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

I SAY THAT IN A COMPLEMENTARY WAY.

THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.

LISA, NICK, BILL, IT IS ALWAYS A QUICK 30 MINUTES WITH YOU.

COME BACK WITH US NEXT WEEK.

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I AM PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS