[CLOSED CAPTIONING HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY CARDI'S FURNITURE AND MATTRESSES] JIM: THIS WEEK, IN FIGHTING BREAKS OUT AMONG SOME PROGRESSIVES IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RACE?

IT IS THE TIME FOR THE PILGRIMAGE.

>> "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" IS GENEROUSLY UNDERWRITTEN BY -- >> FOR 37 YEARS, "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" HAS BEEN PROVIDING POLITICAL VIEWS.

I AM A PROUD SUPPORTER OF THIS PROGRAM AND RHODE ISLAND PBS.

JIM: JOINING US, FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE NICK GORHAM, SUE CIENKI, AND FORMER PARTY CHAIR, AND POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR BOB WALSH.

HELLO, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO LIVELY.

I AM JIM HUMMEL.

TWO MORE DEMOCRATS ANNOUNCED THEY ARE RUNNING TO REPLACE DAVID CICILLINE BUT IT WAS AN EXPLOSIVE SET OF ALLEGATIONS AGAINST A PERCEIVED FRONT RUNNER THAT GRABBED HEADLINES LATER IN THE WEEK.

SEVERAL PROMINENT PROGRESSIVES SAY HE SHOULD NOT BE ELECTED TO CD1.

LET'’S START WITH OUR RESIDENT DEMOCRAT.

YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY FOR ONCE TODAY.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF ALL OF THIS?

>> WE WILL PROBABLY GET TO THE BIG RACE IN A SECOND BUT LET'’S START WITH THE SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THE FORMER CO-OP MEMBER SENDING A LETTER AGAINST AARON REGUNBERG.

JIM: A LENGTHY SERIES.

>> I DON'’T GIVE IT MUCH WEIGHT IN ALL HONESTY AND WITH RESPECT TO MY NON-TEA PARTY COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE 18 PARTY ELEMENT TO THE PROGRESSIVE SIDE.

WHEN SOMEBODY WINS THEIR SUCCESS, THEY WILL BE MAD.

WE WILL STOP SUPPORTING CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'’T SUPPORT PAST CANDIDATES, WE WILL RUN OUT OF CANDIDATES TO SUPPORT.

AARON REGUNBERG WILL RUN ON THE BERNIE SANDERS-ELIZABETH WARREN LANE IN THIS PRIMARY AND THAT IS WIDE OPEN.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE CRITICIZING HIM FROM AN IDEOLOGICAL STANDPOINT WOULD NORMALLY BE WITH HIM.

THEIR VIEWS ON NATIONAL ISSUES HAVE SOME DEGREE OF OVERLAP, AND I CAME FROM THAT LANE WHEN I RAN FOR CONGRESS.

IT IS KIND OF SURPRISING THAT THIS BECOMES A WELL, HE WASN'’T NICE TO ME, DIDN'’T SUPPORT ME, IS A BAD TIPPER -- WHICH IS THE MOST TROUBLESOME ALLEGATION.

BUT HE WAS A COLLEGE STUDENT SO MAYBE THERE WASN'’T MUCH TO TIP WITH.

THAT'’S WORTH INVESTIGATING.

BUT IT'’S ODD TO SAY, WE AGREE WITH HIM ON ALL THE ISSUES BUT WE ARE MAD FOR PERSONAL REASONS, THEREFORE HE'’S NOT SOMEONE WE WILL SUPPORT.

CANDIDATES SHOULD SAY, HERE'’S WHO WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT VERSUS HERE A REASON NOT TO.

I WAS SURPRISED.

SUE: PERSONALITY CONFLICTS, THAT'’S WHAT I GOT, THAT THEY WERE MAD AT HIM.

I THINK THEY ARE AFRAID IT WILL SPLIT THE PROGRESSIVE VOTE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PROGRESSIVE IN THAT SEAT, SO THAT'’S WHAT THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT.

AARON REGUNBERG PROBABLY HAS THE MOST MONEY OUT OF THOSE PROGRESSIVE CANDIDATES SO THEY ARE PROBABLY MAD.

JIM: HE CAME OUT WITH 150,000 THE FIRST DAY AND HAS THAT STRONG PROGRESSIVE ON THE EAST SIDE.

DOESN'’T MATTER WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING?

SUE: THEY WANT TO TAKE HIM DOWN BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO WIN.

THIS IS A GRUELING SPORT, POLITICS.

IT IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

WHAT UPSETS ME MORE ABOUT HIM RUNNING IS HE HAD A PRIME JUDICIAL CLERKSHIP AND HE GAVE IT UP.

THAT OFFENDS ME, AS A LAWYER, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT THAT IS A PLUM JOB.

JIM: HE BEAT OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SUE: AND HE JUST GAVE IT UP SO HE'’S VERY OPPORTUNISTIC.

>> I READ THIS STORY ABOUT THE RIFT -- RIFT?

I THOUGHT PROGRESSIVE LIZ HIM -- PROGRESSIVISM WAS ALL ABOUT PEACE AND LOVE AND I AM TERRIBLY MISTAKEN.

THEY GET VICIOUS AND MEAN.

JIM: LISTEN TO ELVIS COSTELLO.

>> BUT I LOVE IT.

JIM: GLAD WE FOUND SOME ELEMENT THAT IS ENTERTAINING.

LET'’S LOOK AT THE LARGER ISSUE.

FOR WEEKS, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GAY BOMB OUT AND NOT -- GABE AMO.

SUE: I KNEW HE WAS -- I KNEW WHO HE WAS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WERE LIKE, WHO IS LEADING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION?

I DON'’T GIVE MUCH CREDENCE TO HIS CANDIDACY.

THERE ARE 14.

IT IS WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO ORGANIZE AND RAISE THE MONEY.

>> I THINK THIS IS THE CRUX OF IT.

AN ISSUE THAT WE GET TO REVISIT FROM NOW UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER PRIMARY, 14 CANDIDATES.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A REALLY DULL SUMMER.

IT WAS THE HOPKINS REPORT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ALWAYS SOMETHING IN PROUD -- IN RHODE ISLAND.

BOB: TO THE EXTENT THAT RHODE ISLAND IS A SPORT, WE ALL GET AN EXTRA SEASON.

JIM: HOW MANY WILL MAKE IT TO% THE BALLOT?

BOB: 500 SIGNATURES IS NOT A HIGH HURDLE.

THERE WILL BE SOME REFLECTION AND INTROSPECTION BEFORE THE FILING DEADLINE WHERE PEOPLE SAY, I DIDN'’T REALIZE IT WOULD COST THIS MUCH.

AARON REGUNBERG, WHEN YOU ARE DRAWING ATTACKS FROM THE RIGHT AND FAR LEFT MAYBE THAT PROVES YOU ARE A CREDIBLE CANDIDATE.

SABINA MONTO HAS PROVEN HERSELF AS A GOOD VOTE-GETTER.

YOU SHOULD DO A FRAUD -- A TRIFECTA, FOR THOSE FAMILIAR WITH HORSERACING.

THERE HAS GOT TO BE A TOP THREE.

MONTOS AND REGUNBERG ARE IN THE TOP THREE.

I THOUGHT A CANO HAS A GOOD -- JIM: BUT NOT A LOT OF NAME RECOGNITION.

BOB: AND GABE -- IS ON THAT LIST.

JIM: IF HE GETS ON TV LIKE HELENA FOLKES DID -- BOB: TV WON'’T BE A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS ONLY 30,000 TO 40,000 VOTES.

SUE: IT IS A SHORT TIME.

NICK: HELENA FOLKES, I PICKED HER TO WIN THE PRIMARY BECAUSE SHE HAD THE MONEY, RESOURCES, AND TALENTS, AND DON CARLSEN SHOULDN'’T BE UNDERESTIMATED.

HE HAS TRULY GOT A GREAT BACKGROUND.

WILLIAMS, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, AND HE HAS HAD A GREAT CAREER AND HAS GOT A LOT OF MONEY.

SO YOU KNOW HE WILL RUN A GOOD CAMPAIGN.

THE OTHER PERSON I THINK WHO IS SOMEONE TO WATCH IS GABE AMO.

I THINK HE HAS GOT A GOOD SHOT.

JIM: HE'’S GOT A COMPELLING STORY.

NICK: A GREAT STORY, AND HE WENT TO MOSES BRON SCHOOL.

JIM: THERE OU GO.

BOB: RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

JIM: WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AS PARTY CHAIR IS YOU HAVE TO GET KNOWN.

IT IS A COMPRESSED SCHEDULE.

WE ARE IN THE END OF APRIL SO WE'’VE GOT FOUR MONTHS AND A LOT IS DURING THE SUMMER.

BOB: THIS IS INCREDIBLY DIFFEREN FROM THE RACES WE ARE NORMALLY LOOKING AT.

THIS IS A SINGLE BALLOT ITEM SPECIAL ELECTION IN ONE DISTRICT.

THIS IS 30,000 TO 40,000 VOTERS AND 40,000 IS A HIGH ESTIMATE, MOST OF WHOM HAVE MET AT LEAST TWO OR THREE OF THESE CANDIDATES OR ALREADY VOTED FOR THEM.

JIM: AND MAY BE RELATED.

BOB: IF YOU HAVE 14 CANDIDATES AND EACH CAN JUST GET 1000 VOTES, THAT'’S 14,000 VOTES OFF THE TABLE AND THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR A VERY SMALL NUMBER, WHICH FAVORS THOSE WITH GOOD ORGANIZATION.

SUE: AND GOOD NAME RECOGNITION.

AND YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS THE SUMMERTIME.

THAT'’S ONE REASON I ALWAYS SAY OUR PRIMARY HERE SHOULD BE WAY EARLIER.

BUT -- THEY WON'’T MOVE IT TO THE SUMMERTIME BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IS THE BEST TIME OF YEAR SOME PEOPLE -- I LIKE THE FALL AND SPRING.

JIM: INCUMBENTS WILL NEVER DO THAT.

YOU KNOW FROM HAVING SAT IN THE CHAMBER.

SECRETARY OF STATE'’S TALK ABOUT THIS, UNLESS THE SESSION WILL AND ON MAY 1 AND YOU ARE A STATE THAT DOES THE EVERY OTHER BUDGET YEAR, AS YOUR OPPONENT IS KNOCKING ON DOORS YOU ARE SITTING IN THE HOT CHAMBER LISTEN TO SOMEBODY BLAB.

SUE: AND YOU ARE VOTING ON THE BUDGET AND YOU DON'’T WANT TO HAVE TO DEFEND YOUR VOTE DURING A PRIMARY.

JIM: WHEN SHOULD THE PRIMARY BE?

SUE: JUNE.

NICK: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY ONLY POINT.

JIM: I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR OUTREACH?

NICK: THE PRIMARY BEING MIDWAY THROUGH AN ELECTION CYCLE, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE HOLDING OFF, SENATOR CANO, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MATOS, THERE IS NOTHING FOR THEM TO LOSE.

IF IT SHOT.

IT IS A PERFECT TIME TO RUN IF YOU ARE ALREADY IN OFFICE AND IF YOU WANT TO UP YOUR GAME, THIS IS IT.

JIM: EVERY WEEK I WILL DO THIS, SABINA MONTOS AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS TAKEN A CHECK FROM THE TAXPAYERS AND TAKE A SABBATICAL.

TAKE HALF OF IT AND DON'’T SAY YOU CAN DO BOTH JOBS.

THAT'’S THE OUTREACH OF THE WEEK.

I'’M CALLING THE SHOTS ON WHO GETS THE OUTREACH.

NICK, THE ANNUAL PILGRIMAGE TO THE STATEHOUSE HAPPENED THIS WEEK WITH PRO AND CON GUN CONTROL BILLS.

ONE OF THE LAST TIMES WE HAD YOU ON WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINES.

THAT IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH.

THERE IS STILL A CHALLENGE AGAINST THAT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SAFE STORAGE, BUT THE ONE EVERYONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO IS THE SO-CALLED, HIGH-CAPACITY ASSAULT RIFLES, WHATEVER.

AS IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH, GOVERNOR MCKEE SAID IN THE STATE OF THE STATE THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HIM.

DO YOU THINK THE LEADERSHIP HAS THE STOMACH TO PASS THAT GIVEN HOW THEY HAVE BEEN WITH GUNS?

I DIDN'’T SHOW UP AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE.

NICK: MAYBE THE HOUSE, BUT I DON'’T SEE IT GETTING THROUGH THE SENATE.

HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY THIS -- THE SECOND AMENDMENT PEOPLE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO IMPLEMENT A LAW THAT IS EFFECTIVE TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRAZY PEOPLE, BECAUSE IT WILL UNDERMINE THE ENTIRE CONCEPT OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

I DON'’T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT SOCIETY NOW, BUT THE NEWEST THING TO DO BEFORE YOU WANT TO OFF YOURSELF IS TO GO OFF AND KILL THESE PEOPLE.

PEOPLE LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE GUNS.

AND THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO STOP IT.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN REGULATE GUNS ALL YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU CAN'’T KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF THOSE PEOPLE, THERE'’S NO HOPE.

WHETHER YOU MAKE ALL GUNS ILLEGAL OR WHATEVER, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO OUT IN THAT BLAZE, THERE'’S GOT TO BE A WAY TO STOP IT.

SUE: OUT OF ALL THE LEGISLATION UP THERE, I IMAGINE THE SAFE STORAGE BILL HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF PASSING.

JIM: IT SHOULD.

SUE: I DON'’T THINK THE ASSAULT RIFLE BILLS, I'’M NOT QUITE SURE THEY WILL PASS.

WHAT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE IS IN A STATE SUCH AS RHODE ISLAND, THERE ARE ONLY 14% OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY OWN GUNS.

IT IS A REALLY LOW PERCENTAGE.

THE ONLY OTHER STATES THAT ARE LOWER ARE MASSACHUSETTS AND NEW JERSEY.

JIM: ONCE YOU FIGURE IN ALABAMA, FLORIDA, TEXAS.

SUE: WAY HIGHER, MONTANA WAY HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT LEGAL GUN OWNERS ARE THE PROBLEM, BUT THERE IS OTHER ISSUES WITHIN SOCIETY.

WHERE IS THE ANGER COMING FROM?

WHERE IS THE FRUSTRATION COMING FROM?

IT IS NOT JUST BEFORE -- NOT JUST BECAUSE WE WERE LOCKED DOWN WITH COVID.

RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT RESPONSIBLE.

JIM: THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT BECAUSE WE'’VE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THE SENATE FOR 10 YEARS, IT SUNSET, BUT THERE WAS A NATIONAL BAN, FEDERAL BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES.

SOMEHOW DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS CAME TOGETHER TO PASS THAT.

IT IS UNTHINKABLE NOW.

BOB: YOU STOLE MY LINE, BUT THAT'’S THE CRUX OF THE ARGUMENT.

WE USE HAVE THIS NATIONALLY.

THERE'’S NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO HAVE AN ASSAULT WEAPON.

IT IS NOT A HUNTING WEAPON.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE DEFENDING YOURSELF WITH AN ASSAULT WEAPON BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN ASSAULT WEAPON AND ARE HUNKERED DOWN, THEY CAN SEND IN A DRONE OR ONE OF THOSE ROBOT TANKS AND TAKE YOU OUT.

AS NICK POINTED OUT, WHO GETS THEM?

SOMEONE BUYING THEM AND IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO CAUSE HORRIBLE MISCHIEF, HORRIBLE OUTCOMES AND THAT'’S, AND WEISE -- DEATH, AND WE SEE TOO MUCH.

WE CAN LIVE WITH IT.

IF SOMEONE FEELS THE NEED TO PRACTICE AND FIRE THESE THINGS, THEY CAN GO TO A RANGE AND GET ONE UNDER A CONTROLLED CIRCUMSTANCE, AND LEAVE IT LOCKED UP.

WHEN THEY GET OUT INTO SOCIETY, HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN AND WE'’VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

I THINK IT GETS THROUGH THE HOUSE, DON'’T KNOW IF IT WILL GET THROUGH THE SENATE.

IF BOTH CHAMBERS HAVE THE VOTES AND THE GOVERNOR IS WILLING TO SIGN, JOIN WHERE THE COUNTRY WAS.

NICK: I DON'’T THINK YOU WILL FIND MANY REPUBLICANS WHO WOULD BE OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO STOP THESE CRAZY PEOPLE WITH GUNS.

IT IS JUST A MATTER OF SOLVING IT.

I DON'’T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'’T TRIED HARDER TO SOLVE IT.

I'’VE HEARD IT IS THE VIDEOGAME CULTURE THAT WE HAVE.

PEOPLE ARE SORT OF BECOMING PART OF VIDEOGAME REALITY AND IF YOU ARE CRAZY ENOUGH, I SUPPOSE YOU COULD THINK IT IS ALL REALITY SO I WILL GO OUT AND DO MY THING LIKE ON MY GAME.

BOB: THERE'’S AN UNDERLYING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE.

IT ATTRIBUTES TO PEOPLE ENGAGING IN THESE HORRIBLE ACTS SO LET'’S TAKE AWAY THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE ACTS MORE HORRIBLE.

NICK: I DON'’T KNOW IF THAT WILL SOLVE IT.

BOB: IF THEY THROW ROCKS, WE WILL HAVE MORE SURVIVORS THAN 100 BULLETS A MINUTE.

SUE: I THINK THERE IS AN OUTRAGE CULTURE AND WHAT DO WE DO TO SOLVE THE OUTRAGE CULTURE?

PEOPLE CAN'’T EVEN TALK TO EACH OTHER.

THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SHOW -- JIM: AS IN THAT RIGHT?

WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE KUMBAYA MUSIC AT THE END.

SUE: WHERE WE CAN ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION.

JIM: THERE'’S NOT A LOT OF THAT GOING ON.

SUE: THERE'’S NOT A LOT OF THAT.

WE NEED TO GET BACK TO STABILITY AND THERE WILL BE A CHANGE IN CULTURE WHEN YOU GET BACK TO THAT AND AGREE TO DISAGREE, AND HAVE THE MINDSET.

THIS IS A WONDERFUL COUNTRY.

IT IS A WONDERFUL COUNTRY WITH FREEDOM AND HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW GOVERNMENT TO IMPRINT ON YOUR FREEDOM?

BUT WE'’VE GOT TO GET BACK TO BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

JIM: WE WILL KEEP TRACK AS THE SESSION GOES ON.

GOVERNOR MCKEE NEARING HIS HUNDRED DAYS IN OFFICE, ROLLED OUT A PLAN HE CALLS LEARN 365 RI , AN INCENTIVE TO GET KIDS UP TO SPEED AND TRY TO BE ON PAR WITH MASSACHUSETTS.

WE DO A LOT OF COMPARISONS.

I'’VE HEARD MIXED REACTIONS.

SUE: HO-HUM.

THAT'’S THE WAY I FELT.

A LOT OF PROISES WITHOUT A LOT OF DETAILS.

JIM: AND RELYING ON -- NO BENCHMARKS AND RELYING ON MUNICIPAL LEADERS RATHER THAN SCHOOL PEOPLE.

SUE: YOU ALREADY HAVE STUDENTS THAT FALL BEHIND, THAT ARE ENTITLED TO 230 DAYS OF SCHOOL.

THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SUMMER PROGRAMS WELL BEYOND THE 180 DAYS THAT STUDENTS ARE IN.

HIS 365 DAY THING, GIVING MONEY TO THINGS, WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

WHAT'’S THE POINT?

AND EXTRA TIME DOESN'’T ACTUALLY MEAN THE KIDS WILL CATCH UP.

PUT IN THE RIGHT KINDS OF PROGRAMS.

I AM BIG ON LITERACY.

IF KIDS ARE NOT LEARNING HOW TO READ BY THE TIME THEY ARE IN THIRD GRADE, THEY ARE SO FAR BEHIND ALREADY.

ARE WE PUTTING IN THE RIGHT LITERACY PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE STUDENTS CAN READ?

THAT'’S A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO CATCH UP, READING RECOVERY PROGRAMS.

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE STUDENTS CAN LEAVE?

BUT THROWING MONEY AT THE PROBLEM AND GIVING EXTRA TIME WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY OR BENCHMARKS, AND YOU ARE PART OF THE NEW NONPROFIT.

BOB: LITERALLY.

JIM: AT FIRST -- BOB: AT FIRST BLUSH IT LOOKED LIKE GLORIFIED SUMMERCAMP.

I DON'’T FEEL THAT WAY.

I WAS AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND I WILL BE INVOLVED.

JIM: WHY DIDN'’T THE GOVERNOR ANSWER QUESTIONS?

HE SCURRIED AWAY.

BOB: I DON'’T KNOW WHY.

JIM: YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD ANSER ALL THE QUESTIONS.

BOB: I WILL ANSWER AS MANY AS I CAN RIGHT NOW.

I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE COLUMN LAST WEEK WHERE I HAD A DIFFERENCE WITH THE GOVERNOR ON MINA SIPPLE INVOLVEMENT ON EDUCATION -- MUNICIPAL INVOLVEMENT IN EDUCATION.

THIS IS INVOLVEMENT TO HAVE THAT MUCH MORE FULLY ENGAGED THE WAY THE GOVERNOR WAS GOING BACK TO HIS TIME AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN CUMBERLAND.

I DIDN'’T LIKE THAT SOLUTION BUT I LIKE THE EVERYTHING ELSE SOLUTION.

THE WAY I DESCRIBE IT TO FOLKS, GOOD TEACHERS, WHETHER THERE IS AN INDIVIDUALIZED EDUCATION PLAN , HAVE ONE IN YOUR HEAD.

YOU MIGHT HAVE WRITTEN PLANS AS RECORDED BY LAW BUT YOU HAVE ONE IN YOUR HEAD, EXTRA MATH AND READING HERE, KEEP THEM APART BECAUSE THEY WILL TALK TO EACH OTHER, WHATEVER YOU DO.

I WANT TO SEE THAT TAKEN OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL DAY.

I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE SCHOOL, BOB NEEDS, AS SUE POINTED OUT, ISN'’T READING AT GRADE LEVEL.

LET'’S ASSIGN OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL TO DO IT.

NICK IS A GREAT STUDENT BUT HE WOULD BE BETTER OFF RUNNING AROUND AND PLAYING BASKETBALL SO LET'’S NATURE HE GETS TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND GET ATHLETIC SKILLS ON.

THAT WILL MAKE HIM MORE MOTIVATED.

LET'’S MAKE SURE EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE IDENTIFY FOR 140,000 STUDENTS, PUBLIC, CHARTER, PRIVATE, HOME, PAROCHIAL SCHOOL, THEY ARE KIDS.

IF WE CAN ENGAGE 39 CITIES AND TOWNS TO TAKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING WELL AND DO IT BETTER, IT IS A PLACE TO START.

SUE: AND WE ARE -- WHERE ARE THE PARENTS?

JIM: HOPEFULLY FULLY INVOLVED.

SUE: THAT'’S A BIG MISTAKE HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND KNOWING CERTAIN TEACHERS, YOU WOULD SAY, WHAT DOES MY STUDENT NEED?

WHAT DOES MY CHILD NEED BECAUSE I'’M MORE THAN WILLING TO SUPPLEMENT.

AND YOU GET PUSHBACK FROM SOME OF THESE TEACHERS THAT SAY, I DON'’T HAVE TIME AND THE UNION SAYS I ONLY HAVE TO WORK SO MANY HOURS.

BOB: THE UNION SAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO OUTSIDE LIVES BUT THE PARENTS OFTEN PUSH BACK AND SAY IT'’S NOT MY JOB.

PICK THEY WORK TOGETHER.

SUE: THERE IS NOWHERE IN HIS 360 FIVE PLAN WHERE THE WORD "PARENTS" IS MENTIONED.

WE ARE GOING TO LET NICK TALK.

WE COULD GO ON.

JIM: WE ARE BRINGING NICK IN FOR ARBITRATION.

NICK: I WILL TRY TO MEDIATE.

I READ THE PLAN.

I READ AS MUCH ABOUT IT AS I COULD.

I GIVE THE GOVERNOR CREDIT FOR TRYING.

BUT THE RECEPTION SEEMED TO BE THAT IT IS VERY MOSHE.

M --USHY.

IT'’S NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH MONEY LOCAL COMMUNITIES WILL BE ASKED TO PITCH IN AND THEY WILL CREATE A NEW NONPROFIT.

ONE THING WE DON'’T NEED IN THIS STATE IS ANOTHER NEW NONPROFIT -- SUE: IT WILL TAKE AWAY JOBS.

JIM: IT IS VOLUNTEER.

NICK: IT IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR GOVERNMENT.

I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF THIS WHEN I WAS IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WE SHOULD PAY TEACHERS A LOT MORE BECAUSE THAT'’S WHERE YOU GET THE BEST TEACHING.

BY MAKING THE JOB A REWARD.

YOU GET THE BEST TEACHERS WHEN YOU OFFER MORE MONEY.

MAYBE NOT EVERY TEACHER, BUT A LOT MORE TALENT.

AND WE'’VE NEVER DONE THAT.

SO I THINK IT'’S IN BIG TROUBLE IF THEY DON'’T SAY HOW MUCH IT'’S GOING TO COST COMMUNITIES.

JIM: QUICKLY, THE NONPROFIT IS NOT GOING TO BE DOING GOVERNMENT -- BOB: THE NONPROFIT IS NOT GOING TO BE DOING GOVERNMENT THINGS AND I JUST GOT ELECTED PRESIDENT AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT.

NICK: YOU HAVE A CONFLICT.

BOB: NO, I RETIRED.

I'’M GOING TO GO BACK NOW THAT YOU SAY WE CAN PAY TEACHERS MORE.

SUE: THE GOVERNOR WAS VERY INVOLVED WHEN HE WAS MAYOR.

HE BELIEVED IN SCHOOL CHOICE AND CHARTER SCHOOLS.

HE HAS BECOMEMUSHY, JIM: BEFORE WE GET TO OUTRAGES, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE STUFFIE.

COMING TO AN AIRPORT NOT NEAR YOU BUT MAYBE IF YOU ARE TRAVELING, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT GAVE US.

THIS WOMAN IS NEXT TO A GIANT STUFFIE.

THIS APPARENTLY WILL MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO RHODE ISLAND.

LET'’S DO A BULLET POLL.

COUNCILOR GORHAM, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE?

NICK: IT LOOKS LIKE AN OVERSIZED AND NOT DELICIOUS POTATO SCOOP STUFFED INTO A SHELL, MASHED POTATOES THAT IS.

JIM: WITH CAPRICA ON TOP.

-- PAPRIKA.

JIM: IF YOU ARE IN LOS ANGELES, WOULD THAT MAKE YOU HOP ON A PLANE?

NICK: I DON'’T THINK SO.

BOB: I WOULD NEED NO INCENTIVE TO LEAVE LOS ANGELES THAT I PREFER MY STUFFIES WARMER, NOT COOLER.

JIM: THERE WE GO.

OH MY GOODNESS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

SUE: THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "FAMILY GUY," A GIANT QUAHOG WITH PAPRIKA.

THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL STATE AND WE HAVE SO MUCH TO OFFER.

THIS IS A JOKE.

JIM: I SAID IN THE GREENROOM IT IS THE AUSTRALIAN'’S FAULT BECAUSE IF THEY HADN'’T STOLEN AMERICA'’S CUP WE COULD HAVE A SALABLE.

AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE HOUR ON WHAT DO YOU PUT IN?

SUE: MOST PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE WOULDN'’T KNOW WHAT THIS WAS.

JIM: TELL ME THE WORD THAT BEGINS WITH A Q. JIM: QUAHOG.

IS THAT THERE WESTERN RHODE ISLAND PRONUNCIATION?

BOB: GLOUCESTER.

JIM: LET'’S GET TO OUTREACHES AND/OR KUDOS.

BOB: TIE IN A FEW THOUGHTS, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, AND MANY FRIENDS OF SENATOR MARYELLEN GOODWIN.

SHE SERVED FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND PUT UP A HELL OF A FIGHT AGAINST CANCER.

TODAY IS THE DAY WHEN WE ARE FILMING THE WAKE, THE FUNERAL IS TOMORROW.

WHEN MY FRIENDS WERE ELECTED TO THE SENATE THEY WERE WORRIED BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE THEY WOULD DISAGREE WITH AND WERE AFRAID BECAUSE MARYELLEN WAS A MODERATE DEMOCRAT AND THEY WERE MORE PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL.

SHE WAS THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND BECAME VERY CLOSE WITH MARYELLEN.

SUE REFERENCED IT EARLIER, PEOPLE COULD DISAGREE AND BE GOOD, SOLID, LOYAL FRIENDS AND HAVE ROBUST DISAGREEMENTS.

WE'’VE GOT TO GET BACK TO THAT.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT EARLIER WHEN I SAW THE FORMER MACK BROWN FOLKS ATTACKING SOMEONE THEY AGREED WITH ON THE ISSUES OVER WHAT PATTY PERSONAL DIFFERENCES -- PETTY PERSONAL DIFFERENCES .

LET'’S GET SOME COLLEGIALITY BACK INTO THE SYSTEM.

JIM: AMEN TO THAT.

SUE: I AGREE.

IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE SENATOR JESSICA DELACRUZ.

JIM: THAT WAS CLASSY.

SUE: A VERY CLASSY STATEMENT.

MY KUDOS IS HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

JIM: HE CAME AND SPENT HIS BIRTHDAY WITH US.

WHO HAS MORE FUN THAN US?

SUE: AND YOU ARE APPROACHING THAT AGE WHERE YOU GET BENEFITS AND THE BIGGEST BENEFIT YOU WILL RECEIVE AS YOU CAN GET A NATIONAL PARKS PAST FOR LIFETIME.

BOB: A FRIEND OF MINE EMAILED ME THAT FIRST THING THIS MORNING.

JIM: FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM A YEAR AHEAD OF YOU AND I STILL CANNOT TAKE THE SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT.

I AM NOT QUITE THERE, ALTHOUGH THEY SENT ME AN AARP CARD WHEN I WAS 48.

IF THEY ARE TRYING TO ENDEAR THEMSELVES, THAT'’S NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

BOB: TAKE THE DISCOUNT AND TIP BIGGER.

TELL REGUNBERG ABOUT THAT.

JIM: THE LAST FIVE TO 60 SECONDS.

NICK: IN WESTERN RHODE ISLAND, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOVE THROWING OUT BEER CANS AND COFFEE CUPS ALONG THE ROAD, AND I'’VE BEEN CLEANING IT UP FOR YEARS.

TWO DAYS AGO, I WENT HOME EARLY, GOT MY GARBAGE BAGS READY.

IT IS LIKE A HALF A MILE I CLEAN EVERY YEAR.

IT WAS ALL CLEANED UP.

I DON'’T KNOW WHO WENT THROUGH THERE BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS.

JIM: DO YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS THIS STRETCH OF THE HIGHWAY ADOPTED BY NICK GORE?

NICK: I DON'’T, AND I DON'’T KNOW WHY SOMEONE CAME THROUGH AND PICKED UP THE GARBAGE.

THAT IS ABOUT AS FAR OUT IN THE STICKS AS YOU CAN GET.

JIM: THREE KUDOS.

SUE: THEY FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

JIM: THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.

APPRECIATE YOU JOIN US.

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